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@raphaelmorgan@disabled.socialAs someone who actually has NPD, I'd like to beg people to STOP armchair diagnosing every fucking Nazi with it. Please. You're not hurting them, you're only hurting us. Actually, you're only hurting those of us who are self aware and care enough to try to be a better person. Armchair diagnosing or comparing bad people with disabilities bounces off of them and just hurts disabled people. Please stop. Same goes for body shaming Nazis. We can be better than them.
@raphaelmorgan@disabled.social EXACTLY. The way people talk about empathy is fucking disgusting. There are plenty of people who struggle with empathy. You know what though? they do actually still care about the people around them and the impact that their decisions have on others. I hate the continued stigmatization of the "antisocial" personality disorders (specifically cluster B). People can still feel compassion even if they don't feel empathy. It's much more fucking complicated than just "you are diagnosed with the bad disorder now you are subject to becoming the worst person in existence". I am so tired. I have bipolar type 2 and the stigmatization hit me, I wanted to end my life over my diagnosis. For reference, my father has bipolar type 2 and I made the connection that all of his abusive qualities were because of the disorder. (mainly I internalized all that stigma).
Turns out right, I take a mood stabilizer once in the morning and once in the evening. I live an otherwise completely normal life. Now, it's important to note that bipolar type 1 impacts people a lot differently, and there are varying levels of symptoms for both types (gee - it's almost as if it's a spectrum). Not meaning to erase other bipolar people's existence because they can't take a simple pill (it can get really bad, and it doesn't help that bipolar makes you not want to take your medication). Just describing how bad the stigma is to the point that I thought I had this incurable disease that made me a monster and I shouldn't bother living. Clearly I am not my father. I fucking hate how this literally trickles down to support groups too. I had to stop browsing r/bipolar and the other mental health subreddits. So many people would just walk in being like "you have to accept the fact that you abuse others, you must feel remorse you are a bad person. you should spend every day trying not to hurt others you psycho". N-no? That's not how this works.
@raphaelmorgan@disabled.social I've seen too many god damn people with bipolar or borderline personality disorder be abused because they felt like in order to stop hurting people they had to abide by their abuser's every command. people take advantage of this and do horrible things. it is awful. I do not believe anyone is necessarily an abusive/bad person because of a disorder they just so happen to be diagnosed with. It's actions that count, if you choose not to be medicated or to learn about your disorder and how it may impact social interactions? Sure that's on you at that point. If you're undiagnosed and struggling with it? that doesn't make you a bad person. there's no way you could have known. you still might have hurt people but it's not like you intended on doing so. (again, not trying to dismiss the people who have been hurt by people with these disorders but it's not so black and white)
@raphaelmorgan@disabled.social Anyway - sorry for the rant i just have been fed up. I come to fedi and see people on their soapbox about how the bad people have mental disorders, or how they have a "low IQ". It completely erases accountability and makes the people around me feel horrible about themselves.
@puppygirlhornypost2 @raphaelmorgan
The Bad People have super cheesie drug addictions. And are in Obvious Drug Fueled Psychotic States.
But that is just a feature of their obvious “soullessness”.
The evil they are blossomed in their teen years.
It’s who they are
he/him @MishaVanMollusq @puppygirlhornypost2 @raphaelmorgan
Always remember that the evil people doing evil things are *normal people*.
All of us, no matter who, can become monsters. The most important question is "what kind of monster will you choose to be?"
@puppygirlhornypost2 @raphaelmorgan
So untreated you are the Social Equivalent of Bugs Bunny’s Tasmanian Devil?
@raphaelmorgan@disabled.social With regards to the PDs, I've said that before as well and fully agree with that part.
What I disagree with is the “no body-shaming nazis”: They are the ones who choose the standards by which they judge superiority themselves, so we have every right to make fun of them for failing to live up that.
It’s decidedly not the same as body-shaming in general, because in that instance it is the utter hypocrisy in their bigotry that you are shaming.
I dunno, it still harms anyone who has a body that looks like theirs and there are a billion other things to comment on. I mean, still comment on the orange cheeto, but i also know a lot of nice older guys who are shaped like him who don't need more sadness in their hearts.
Basically, it's not a kindness to Nazis cuz fuck 'em but it is a kindness to people who would be caught in that crossfire.
@RobotDiver@starlite.rodeo @raphaelmorgan@disabled.social
There was a joke in Nazi-Germany:
What does an Arian look like? He is blond like Hitler, tall like Goebbels and slender like Göring!I don’t think this attacks brown-haired, small and overweight people and I doubt many other people do either. It’s very directly targeted at how idiotic and hypocritical they are and that they themselves don’t meet the standards they espouse, which demonstrates that these standards are nonsensical.
There is nuance of course, but I think that pointing out the bigotry does, if anything, increase the support for these groups.
For sure. Pointing out hypocrisy is one thing, but it's when people are directly attacking peoples physical traits, it attacks anyone else who might have those physical traits, that's all I'm saying.
But that joke doesn't do that, it points out the irony of none of them meeting those standards.
Like, i genuinely believe Musk has less charisma than a half dead slug, and I could comment on him physically, but he's also shaped like one of my best friends so I'm not gonna, cuz I know how that would make my friend feel.
@Fiona when you body shame a Nazi, it does not hurt them. The hypocrisy is the point, they know they don't meet their own standards and they don't care. You know who does care? Innocent fat people. Innocent bald people. Innocent people with small penises or flat asses. Etc etc etc. When you body shame a fascist, you are hurting people and the fascist is not among them.
@Fiona @raphaelmorgan@disabled.social I'm not sure this is what you intended to convey but this does read to me like you're saying body-shaming Nazis is fine regardless of circumstance but like it is very possible to stray into questionable territory with that I think.
Certain diagnoses were *constructed* to hurt disabled people in the first place though, I'm thinking not just of "PD's" but also of "functional neurological disorder," "conversion disorder"... these are ways to deny people better treatment / further testing or in some cases to mark them for policing, state violence, and surveillance. It's not just the casual armchair comparisons to our oppressors that hurt us, it's the austere official usage by professionals too.
@raphaelmorgan Is Nazi Punching Disorder even a real diagnosis?